OBD tuning kena hit in VAGSG.

[Guest ACSLK]

ATD wrote:

Awesome...M3 for you then...

yes, MTL......

cheers

[Guest hkhamateur]

ACSLK wrote:

i track, that's why..............

cheers

Wow....beauty! :becky:

bro, arrange w bro C350 ler? Fr all sgmercs bros/sis plus bimmer plus Audi fr track Ok? :whistle:

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hkhamateur wrote:

Wow....beauty! :becky:

bro, arrange w bro C350 ler? Fr all sgmercs bros/sis plus bimmer plus Audi fr track Ok? :whistle:

yo,

no problem......

am going up Sepang on 10 Dec (BMW-sg Track Day)

TCC 5th Nov (too crowded thus not going up)

waiting for C350..........................Lolz

cheers

[Guest ATD]

hkhamateur wrote:

Ya..street racg is v fun too. Thrill! :bounce:

Wow...surprisely Conti CSC3 can hold at fast cornerg? Think shld b yr S5 Frt/ rear sway bars n lateral links! Gd car! :becky:

:laugh::laugh::laugh: ya...maybe OBD can.

Ya man...so far so good!!! And pretty comfortable and quiet too...

[Guest ACSLK]

ATD wrote:

Ya man...so far so good!!! And pretty comfortable and quiet too...

Silent but Violent.......................

cheers

[Guest hkhamateur]

ACSLK wrote:

yo,

no problem......

am going up Sepang on 10 Dec (BMW-sg Track Day)

TCC 5th Nov (too crowded thus not going up)

waiting for C350..........................Lolz

cheers

Wa..itchy man! :shocked:

Wa...C180 C200 C280 sured kena jiat on straight track, corners n pit stop movg off! Signz....! :Cry:

How to go man! Supercharge engine can load turbo? VW has model both supercharge & Turbocharge correct? Sirriocco I think? :music:

Best of both! :bounce:

[Guest hkhamateur]

ACSLK wrote:

Silent but Violent.......................

cheers

Yes, yes! Tat's e words! :bounce:

Bro, c all sgmerc bros dun push us behind while cornerg hor! :whistle:

give chance lor! :hand:

[Guest ACSLK]

hkhamateur wrote:

Wa..itchy man! :shocked:

Wa...C180 C200 C280 sured kena jiat on straight track, corners n pit stop movg off! Signz....! :Cry:

How to go man! Supercharge engine can load turbo? VW has model both supercharge & Turbocharge correct? Sirriocco I think? :music:

Best of both! :bounce:

Hi hk,

yes, slower car will suffer the straights but Sepang got more turn thus can still enjoy the cornering too...................

more for the experience, most important is Sepang got no TP and speed cam............Lolz

* Rocco 2L is fast............(Bro Audifreak C63 also fast..............)

cheers

[Guest ATD]

More members with bad experiences surfacing at VAG:

Joculator: "I did obd tuning with Dave in my previous BMW and i feel it's pretty much waste of $. I did it with my eyes wide open and it's was my virgin ecu flash. In fact I did a dyno after that and the reading was stock. "

yky:"Same experience here. Could not find anyone that can tune via the OBD port for my mondeo ecoboost 2.0 ( same engine as the volvo ) until Dave claimed that his counterparts in UK could. He never claim that he is the tuner, but was in fact, acting as intermediary for the actual UK tuner ( whom I cannot find anything on in the web ). After spending $1200, I could feel no difference. I told him so and despite the usual 200km acclimatization period, things did not change. Did not bother to confront him after that. I am not too overly perturbed if he DID NOT load any new maps. I would be more worried if he had loaded any OTHER non Ford / volvo maps instead. Now my car is strongly performing well with Hannson's peggy."

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ATD wrote:

More members with bad experiences surfacing at VAG:

Joculator: "I did obd tuning with Dave in my previous BMW and i feel it's pretty much waste of $. I did it with my eyes wide open and it's was my virgin ecu flash. In fact I did a dyno after that and the reading was stock. "

yky:"Same experience here. Could not find anyone that can tune via the OBD port for my mondeo ecoboost 2.0 ( same engine as the volvo ) until Dave claimed that his counterparts in UK could. He never claim that he is the tuner, but was in fact, acting as intermediary for the actual UK tuner ( whom I cannot find anything on in the web ). After spending $1200, I could feel no difference. I told him so and despite the usual 200km acclimatization period, things did not change. Did not bother to confront him after that. I am not too overly perturbed if he DID NOT load any new maps. I would be more worried if he had loaded any OTHER non Ford / volvo maps instead. Now my car is strongly performing well with Hannson's peggy."

that's it............

vroom vroom

cheers

[Guest hkhamateur]

ATD wrote:

More members with bad experiences surfacing at VAG:

Joculator: "I did obd tuning with Dave in my previous BMW and i feel it's pretty much waste of $. I did it with my eyes wide open and it's was my virgin ecu flash. In fact I did a dyno after that and the reading was stock. "

yky:"Same experience here. Could not find anyone that can tune via the OBD port for my mondeo ecoboost 2.0 ( same engine as the volvo ) until Dave claimed that his counterparts in UK could. He never claim that he is the tuner, but was in fact, acting as intermediary for the actual UK tuner ( whom I cannot find anything on in the web ). After spending $1200, I could feel no difference. I told him so and despite the usual 200km acclimatization period, things did not change. Did not bother to confront him after that. I am not too overly perturbed if he DID NOT load any new maps. I would be more worried if he had loaded any OTHER non Ford / volvo maps instead. Now my car is strongly performing well with Hannson's peggy."

OMG! :shocked:

He was e tuner behind all bt actingly sayg he's nt n it's his UK partner was real! :whistle:

Finished I must say! :lie: :mod:

I hope I'm nt e only one on Kompressor engine tat OBD rejected! :pray2:

[Guest blackmercs]

Strange!! After so many donkey years the complains starts to kicks in?

[Guest hkhamateur]

blackmercs wrote:

Strange!! After so many donkey years the complains starts to kicks in?

Ya ha......:shocked:

Nw u mention n its funny! :whistle:

I believed they ve done plenty of cars liao! :becky:

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hkhamateur wrote:

OMG! :shocked:

He was e tuner behind all bt actingly sayg he's nt n it's his UK partner was real! :whistle:

Finished I must say! :lie: :mod:

I hope I'm nt e only one on Kompressor engine tat OBD rejected! :pray2:

UK : Ulu Kelantan???

cheers

[Guest hkhamateur]

ACSLK wrote:

UK : Ulu Kelantan???

cheers

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

hope those maps they loaded re nt protons! :shocked: :shocked:

[Guest ACSLK]

hkhamateur wrote:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

hope those maps they loaded re nt protons! :shocked: :shocked:

Lolz.........................

cheers

[Guest ATD]

blackmercs wrote:

Strange!! After so many donkey years the complains starts to kicks in?

To be fair I think he did genuinely loaded maps into the older cars...but its the recent years especially since 2010 onwards...many cars have anti-tune protocols loaded and writing a modded map via OBD became impossible. But obviously he didn't have the knowledge to remove the ECUs and write the new maps directly into the board...so he just do what he is doing now lor...just plug into OBD and tell people that he has loaded a map...

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ATD wrote:

To be fair I think he did genuinely loaded maps into the older cars...but its the recent years especially since 2010 onwards...many cars have anti-tune protocols loaded and writing a modded map via OBD became impossible. But obviously he didn't have the knowledge to remove the ECUs and write the new maps directly into the board...so he just do what he is doing now lor...just plug into OBD and tell people that he has loaded a map...

time to upgrade......................

cheers

[Guest blackmercs]

ATD wrote:

To be fair I think he did genuinely loaded maps into the older cars...but its the recent years especially since 2010 onwards...many cars have anti-tune protocols loaded and writing a modded map via OBD became impossible. But obviously he didn't have the knowledge to remove the ECUs and write the new maps directly into the board...so he just do what he is doing now lor...just plug into OBD and tell people that he has loaded a map...

U mean he dosent knows about it after all these of experience & pretending that eveything is in order? If yes, then he got to face the music.

Correct me if I'm wrong stock ECU can learn & overwrite after learning the driver's driving style after OBD.

[Guest ATD]

blackmercs wrote:

U mean he dosent knows about it after all these of experience & pretending that eveything is in order? If yes, then he got to face the music.

Correct me if I'm wrong stock ECU can learn & overwrite after learning the driver's driving style after OBD.

I think he knows lah....just can't be bothered cos too much hassle to remove ecu and do the work...plug and play easier money mah....

The ECU will adapt to the map that it has...won't overwrite a map...

[Guest blackmercs]

ATD wrote:

I think he knows lah....just can't be bothered cos too much hassle to remove ecu and do the work...plug and play easier money mah....

The ECU will adapt to the map that it has...won't overwrite a map...

Yap adapt is the word. So why do u think after all these he wants to pull a fast one?

[Guest VBlaster_W211]

I prefer to dynotune for before and after whp and torque curve comparisons, followed by road tune to get the driving feel right.

Each car is different. Loading a map onto it doesn't optimise the performance.

[Guest ATD]

blackmercs wrote:

Yap adapt is the word. So why do u think after all these he wants to pull a fast one?

I think you misunderstood. The ECU won't over write a properly loaded modded map. It will adapt to the new map to produce more power.

As for pulling a fast one....its Because he wants to make money fast! Instead of learning the skill to open up the ECU to write a new map into the board (which even if he can, it'll be a few hours worth of work), he chose to just tell people he can tune these anti-tune cars via OBD, collect fast cash then hope that no one finds out...

[Guest ATD]

VBlaster_W211 wrote:

I prefer to dynotune for before and after whp and torque curve comparisons, followed by road tune to get the driving feel right.

Each car is different. Loading a map onto it doesn't optimise the performance.

Unless its a very close buddy operating the dyno, or if I get to stand next to the dyno watching the data recorded live with a close buddy that I can trust operating the car...I won't trust the results. I especially won't trust dyno tests from the tuner workshops because it's so easy to alter the results otherwise...butt feel and how the car drives on the road is the best...after 40-60km or after a few full drive cycles you will know if the car has improved in power and smoothness etc. if its not obvious or significant enough, then go get the money back...ultimately it's how you feel when you drive that is most important....

[Guest blackmercs]

ATD wrote:

I think you misunderstood. The ECU won't over write a properly loaded modded map. It will adapt to the new map to produce more power.

As for pulling a fast one....its Because he wants to make money fast! Instead of learning the skill to open up the ECU to write a new map into the board (which even if he can, it'll be a few hours worth of work), he chose to just tell people he can tune these anti-tune cars via OBD, collect fast cash then hope that no one finds out...

Not happens to our E46 era, the ECU adapt to the driver style after OBD. So is like back to the future & we won't feel the punch. Only for those who continously hard driving the butt feel is always there.

Hope OBD is here to clarify, is better to hear from the horses mouth.