C204 - differences between the engines? Prices?

[Guest alex123]

What is the difference in driving feel, consumption, power, etc between the 1.8 Kompressor, the 1.6 Blue Efficiency and the current 1.8 Turbo CGI?

In terms of price, can I say the prices are almost similar between a used, say C&C 2008 C180 and a new PI C180 CGI?

Trying to decide which way to go. . . buy used, new C&C or new PI. I am sure some of you has gone through this exercise and may wish to share your findings?

[Guest jtang]

You should test drive both models to feel them. The 2008 C200 is a kompressor model. IMO, the CGI is a better car...no irritating supercharger whinning noise. The tourque for CGI is stronger even though it's only C180, making the car feel responsive.

[Guest Cerano]

you should test both. personally i like the supercharger sound. actually after modding its no longer a whine but an aggressive throaty gurgling Some people in MCF have complained about the CGI having lag at the traffic lights even though max tq is at 1.8k rpm

[g8crasher]

Cerano wrote:

you should test both. personally i like the supercharger sound. actually after modding its no longer a whine but an aggressive throaty gurgling Some people in MCF have complained about the CGI having lag at the traffic lights even though max tq is at 1.8k rpm

Lag har ? Rims too heavy sibor ?

Change to forged lightweight 18s Rays Progressive ME

. :becky:

[Guest alex123]

Buy PI or C&C? Anyone has best prices? Please PM me if too confi. Thanks.

[Guest Cerano]

g8crasher wrote:

Lag har ? Rims too heavy sibor ?

Change to forged lightweight 18s Rays Progressive ME

. :becky:

how many kg? hehehe

no la some E250 CGI owners complaining bout turbo lag... dunno why

[Guest mile]

One thing to know, older C180K with 1.6 super charged engine is a downsize from the same well tested old 1.8L engine (which has been around for 4-5 years i think).

BUT, new 1.8 CGi engine , difference is not only turbo vs super charge. But CGI (Charge Gasoline Injection) is also direct injection and variable valve timinig ... about similar with VAG's TFSI, Alfa/FIAT's MultiAir (well about the same ... though Alfa's is slightly more complex, some would say better and more advance) and Ford's new Ecoboost in terms of tech.

Hence, the new 1.8CGI achieved EURO5 emission standard whereas the older 1.6K is EURO4... and newer 1.8CGI is more efficient and powerful.

If you are paying the same amount of money, go for newer tech.

Another thing, if you are buying used now.... beware of the many cars affected by being underwater during this period of flood and rain..... i know i dont want to buy a car which has been under water before.

[Guest Cerano]

good point about the flood!

[Guest bbwannabe]

mile wrote:

One thing to know, older C180K with 1.6 super charged engine is a downsize from the same well tested old 1.8L engine (which has been around for 4-5 years i think).

BUT, new 1.8 CGi engine , difference is not only turbo vs super charge. But CGI (Charge Gasoline Injection) is also direct injection and variable valve timinig ... about similar with VAG's TFSI, Alfa/FIAT's MultiAir (well about the same ... though Alfa's is slightly more complex, some would say better and more advance) and Ford's new Ecoboost in terms of tech.

Hence, the new 1.8CGI achieved EURO5 emission standard whereas the older 1.6K is EURO4... and newer 1.8CGI is more efficient and powerful.

If you are paying the same amount of money, go for newer tech.

Another thing, if you are buying used now.... beware of the many cars affected by being underwater during this period of flood and rain..... i know i dont want to buy a car which has been under water before.

lol! the m271 (1.8l supercharged) engine has been around since 2002. still is around!

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[Guest alex123]

W204 C180

Mar 2007 onwards - 1.8litre Kompressor engine (same engine as the W203)

June 2009 - Mar 2010 - 1.6 litre Kompressor Blue Efficiency engine

Apr 2010 - 1.8 litre Turbo Blue Efficiency CGI engine

W204 C200

Mar 2007 - Apr 2010 1.8 Kompressor (higher KW)

Apr 2010 - 1.8 Turbo CGI engine (with higher KW) -Blue Efficiency?

Am I right about the engine changes and the time-line?

Thanks!

[Guest Raskie]

mile wrote:

Another thing, if you are buying used now.... beware of the many cars affected by being underwater during this period of flood and rain..... i know i dont want to buy a car which has been under water before.

if that's the case, shd buy now and not 6 mths later ... overhaul need time and parts replacement ... so kena flood. prob still in w/s, will need time to do overhaul engine works not mentioning the interior deco bits

[Guest vt5sport]

Raskie wrote:

if that's the case, shd buy now and not 6 mths later ... overhaul need time and parts replacement ... so kena flood. prob still in w/s, will need time to do overhaul engine works not mentioning the interior deco bits

saw a 2008 used one at turf city recently. hmmm....2yr old car wif new carpets. :whistle:

[Guest vincemerz]

vt5sport wrote:

saw a 2008 used one at turf city recently. hmmm....2yr old car wif new carpets. :whistle:

My opinion is since it's a conti car that u like and u may want to drive long, just buy first hand. At least u feel more shiok!